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New Post 7/29/2009 12:43 PM
  rdhatch
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Google Wave & Server Push 
Modified By rdhatch  on 7/29/2009 5:04:15 PM)

Hi Guys -

If you haven't checked out Google Wave - You need to.  Their user interface is incredible.

Jeremiah & I are looking at implementing some pieces of Google Wave for VWG.

We really need a COMET demo.  Google is using a custom COMET implementation using long polling.  Something we need to check into for ASP.NET.

Please jump to 10:00 minutes in the video below:

 

Please read this article here on XMPP & COMET.

Guy - Comet must be scalable - Because Google is about lauch Wave.  And it's incredible.  Comments please?

Ryan

Two Implementations I've found:


Ryan D. Hatch, VWG MVP
GeniusCode.net | VWG Community Frameworks | VWG Wiki
 
New Post 8/3/2009 6:31 AM
  Guy
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Re: Google Wave & Server Push 
Modified By Guy  on 8/3/2009 9:33:27 AM)

 Hi Ryan,

We have plans to support comet and to provide an extensible messaging system in the backend that might be even extended to support the the google wave backend. This is some thing that obviusly was not available when we did our blue prints for the comet support and we wil have to look into in terms of interopability with XMPP.

Regarding scalability I guess that the following the best practices of comet which basically entail a separate domain for the comet calls and still maintainig the ability to interact with the primary domain is the secret souce for creating the solution scalable. Because of our focus in 6.4 I don't think we will be able to squeeze in any actual work on the subject, but I guarantee that in 7.0 we will look into providing a transparent way to implement realtime messaging and updating with in Visual WebGui. I also suspect and based on the interaction we had that migrating from the solution you guys are doing to the official API will be simple enough.

I believe that your effort to make it work on the existing version will not be in vain as if we are targeting the 7.0 version that means that it will take some time to mature. I guess that the feedbacks you guys will have from you attempts will help to create a better solution when we start implementing the official solution.

Keep on the good job.. :-)

Guy

 
New Post 9/13/2009 6:33 PM
  nirajagarwal
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Re: Google Wave & Server Push 

Google Wave could establish a new model for managing communication with its ability to mix channels. The "realtime" keystroke transfer really seems to hop up the chatting experience. Building a VWG communications app for the corporate market with some Wave-like features could be interesting given VWG's advantages with regard to security.

Niraj

 
New Post 9/24/2009 3:05 AM
  ori.cohen
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Re: Google Wave & Server Push 

Hello Niraj,

I completely agree. This is a very exciting time to be a web developer, as so many thing are evolving so rapidly.

When we release the server-push extension for Visual WebGui, creating such communication applications will be almost easy, and as you said, these applications would be very secure.

Regards,

Ori Cohen
Support Manager, the Visual WebGui team

 
New Post 9/24/2009 9:44 AM
  ddks
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Re: Google Wave & Server Push 

Hi All,

We just implemented a new comet server via a third party service (so they handle all the connections etc via ahosted environment). the clients connect to this service and our middleware also publishes to this service. e are currently running VWG embedded inside an ASP.NET site so the push is in the ASP part. We are moving the entire post-login part of the site to a full VWG App in the next 2 months and will have to integrate this. Not sure if this is of interest to anyone?!

Daniel

 
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