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New Post 5/10/2009 4:22 AM
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  mhensen
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Call to Open Source Framework and/or libraries 
Modified By mhensen  on 5/11/2009 12:07:47 PM)

Ok guys,

Let me be the first person beside Gizmox to post in here :-)

As propbably noticed in various postings I have called for an Open Souce initiative as quite a lot of developers are from smaller companies or even privateers (like me). I already found Ryan to build up a new framework around VWG to build our applications faster en more accurate (accurate in needing to spend less time in testing due to the generic approaches).

Because I am also busy building a complete new framework from scratch, but with the experience build up over the last 10 years of web application development. But I know I am not the only one building frameworks.. So therefor the call for combining expertises

I tend to say  that most applications build are based on a 80 - 20 rule. Meaning 80% of the application consists of CRUD (Create, Read, Update, (logic) Delete), the remaining 20% are socalled processes. Having said this I am building up my framework aroun this 80 -20 rule. 
Automatic generated Scaffolding screens wich will eventually be customizable. (the 80%)
Workflow triggered and controlled screens to fill the remaining 20%

I know this is a hell of a job and when build you might end up in a very closed structure in which changes can be hard to make.
Therefore I am also implementing the MEF (Microsoft Extension Framework) to be able to exchange all the various elements of the framework. From Dal (MODEL) up to the various controls. MEF is used in the upcoming VS2010 and also is an open source environment.

Please let us all join forces to build this thing. How to contribute? If you for example have a very good library or an own gridview control or other helpfull libraries. That all would be very helpfull.

I will open up my code as soon as I have it more concrete, right now it is a proof of concept, but from that point the entire framework will arise.  Probably a codeplex site will be opened including a blog spot.

I start of with a small screencast (with a lot of errors and flaws, but hopefully this will give you  some idea). The designer you see is the first Scaffolded screen, from there you will be able, in a later stage, to download the screendefinition and adjust this in a seperate application, post the definition back and the clients will be able to use that new screen. All components are loaded by MEF imports and exports

I know this is quite a bit of info but again. this is work in progress and I want this thing to be open so that others could benifit and eventually we all benifit as development time hopefully goes down!!!!

My little screencast of the CEM framework (Customer Experience Management) is at

Comments and Critics are more then welcome.

@Gizmox people I posted this in the commercial section but if you feel this is also worth placing in the open 'Announce it' you may crosspost this message!!

With kind regards,

Michael Hensen
The Netherlands

 THIS THREAD IS CONTINUED AT http://www.visualwebgui.com/Developers/Forums/tabid/364/forumid/25/threadid/25181/scope/posts/Default.aspx

 

 

 

 



 

 

 


With kind regards,

Michael Hensen

VWG Community Frameworks
 
New Post 5/10/2009 1:28 PM
  palli
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Re: Call to Open Source Framework and/or libraries 

Hi Michael,

This really looks promising and I think we all look forward to see how this turns out. There are more forum users working on similar solution, as you pointed out, and I really welcome the initiative of bringing them all together so we all can benefit and lend a hand where needed.

Having said that, I personally think that you should rather write posts like that in the public forums. The commecrial forums come with a 24hour SLA, which requires someone at Gizmox to reply to your posts within 24 hours. In this case, you are not asking for any specific or direct help from Gizmox, rather calling to the community to come together.

You will also get a bigger crowd and more responses by posting in the public forums, as the non-commercial users can not post their replies to commercial forum threads.

I suggest that you repost in the public forums to give everyone a chance to have their say.

Thanks for your effort,

Palli

 

 


Páll Björnsson - Visual WebGui support team - Email: support@visualwebgui.com
 
New Post 5/11/2009 1:07 AM
  mhensen
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Re: Call to Open Source Framework and/or libraries 

Hi Pali,

This is promising indeed and I hope that with participation some participation we can combine ideas instead of just a single thought and interpertation of a possible solution.

This thread can be closed as it is crossposted to the public "announce it"

With kind regards,

 

Michael


With kind regards,

Michael Hensen

VWG Community Frameworks
 
New Post 5/11/2009 11:30 AM
  palli
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Re: Call to Open Source Framework and/or libraries 

Hi Michael,

Thanks for your understanding. I saw you allready posted in the public forums. Great.

For completeness, this thread is closed and will be continued here

Palli

 


Páll Björnsson - Visual WebGui support team - Email: support@visualwebgui.com
 
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